Its not often a company finds itself in a market position where it has the flexibility and agility of a newcomer, along with a storied history that provides name recognition and a solid base of existing expertise. Global financial services giant AXA is in this sweet spot as it enters the U.S. employee benefit business for the first time. Through subsidiaries AXA Equitable Life Insurance Company and MONY Life Insurance Company of America, AXA will launch a suite of products group life insurance, dental and vision, short- and long-term disability, gap medical and hospital indemnity, and critical illness in the fall.
In an exclusive interview, Employee Benefit Adviser and Employee Benefit News talked strategy with the AXA U.S. executives behind the launch Hervé Balzano, head of employee benefits; James Long, head of distribution; Tom Flavin, senior vice president of sales; and Ed Velazquez, chief of staff and head of administration. The executives discussed why AXA sees its technology as a game-changer and how theyll build momentum behind the launch. An edited version of the conversation follows:
Why enter this space now; how are you going to compete?
Hervé Balzano: AXA is a leader in employee benefits in many countries. It has a large book of business, roughly from $12 billion to $15 billion. We are clearly the leader in France, in the U.K., in Hong Kong. Now we're starting operations in the U.S. This is the biggest market in the world. So it makes a lot of sense for us, even if its a competitive market. We have identified that there is room for us, especially in companies with 20 to 500 employees, where the market for ancillary benefits [is] underserved or fragmented in terms of competitors. I think this is a real reason to enter this market.
Ed Velazquez: Theres clearly a lot of disruption in the market, and theres going to certainly be more disruption in the market whatever the Supreme Court decides with respect to the ACA. But I think for a company like AXA, were probably even more uniquely positioned than our competitors to be able to be nimble and be flexible in response to that, principally because we do not have any legacy systems whether thats technology, whether thats distribution to hold us back.
We started with a high-level strategy, and we said how can we think about a game plan to step foot into the market the way it currently exists and then expand the footprint into the way we think the market is going to be in three to five years? We certainly dont have a crystal ball, but we can tell that theres going to be continued focus and pressure on employers in terms of providing for their employees and utilizing employee benefits as retention tools. That is critical for employers in the SME space and we think that AXA will be able to provide a value proposition, recognizing the impact of health care and the importance of employee benefit products.
When you say theres no legacy systems, could you expand on that?
Velazquez: So many entrenched competitors are insurance carriers that have been in business for decades. They have generations-old technology that they have been building on and building on, and those systems have been held together by Band-Aids. Weve tried to take a very different view of technology with respect to this particular endeavor. In the employee benefits space, we are taking a totally holistic view of technology, and since we dont have to worry about feeding a legacy system or systems from 25 years ago, we can work to [be] best in class.
Balzano: Usually when we think about the system, its about back office. But in employee benefits we are convinced that where we can differentiate ourselves is at the front end. Especially for our three customers: the distributors, the employers and the employees. We will build a 360 platform.
Tom Flavin: Its no secret that every employee benefits company out there wants to make life easier for the brokers and users as well as employers. However, there are some restrictions. Even though they may think they have the solution in their head, will the systems plug-and-play to allow for those solutions? Not having these legacy systems that Ed spoke of definitely gives us the opportunity to bring those systems to those brokers and users, as well as employers, using the best technology. Not just a piece of the puzzle the whole picture. So its starting from the RFP process through the enrollment process through the administration to the program ongoing.
What is it about the technology that makes it different?
James Long: Brokers and GAs typically own a large block of this business. How do you make their lives easier, faster, more responsive? Employees, at the tail end, when they have open enrollment, how do they make decisions that benefit their families, are they fully informed, is it easier? And the employer, do they feel confident that theyve got the right approach for their employees and that things will be done in an economical way and that are fully compliant with ACA? So all those problems from front to back are what were trying to solve.
Flavin: [The ACA] opened the door and opened the minds for all parties. It's not business as usual. The marketplace is changing. And with that, everyone has to adapt to those changes. And by embracing technology, what were hoping to do, from a broker perspective, is really help them protect their block of business. One of the more frustrating experiences from a broker perspective is to go to a client and bring a program to them that drastically failed during the enrollment process for different reasons. And then theyre gun-shy about bringing that type of product to the next client.
What does the platform look like?
Long: Its not an exchange, its not an app; its a platform. We call it Benefits 360. You get a total view of how it affects your family, how you make the choice. Right now, the benefits process is disjointed. [Employees] struggle through and they get it over with. And they make decisions not knowing how those decisions could impact their own savings account. Changing the verbiage around the product and also applying context to how it impacts peoples lives, we think, will have a big impact.
Velazquez: Consumers like the full picture. Were trying to figure out how much do people like to go through a process where they say, Heres my salary; heres how much I think Im going to spend on health care; heres what I have left. Some consumers want to go through that kind of model. Some want to go through just three clicks.
What are you hearing from brokers directly?
Long: Weve gone out to the market and asked, If you started with a clean slate, what would it look like? What are our competitors doing; why do/dont you like it?
The legacy distribution point that we have, and were very proud of it, is AXA Advisors, approximately 5,000 financial professionals largely focused on small business owners throughout the United States some extremely successful at what they do. A large number of them specialize in benefits, and weve treated them to special focus groups. We have an advisory panel of about 15 of them. Theyre part of our tier-one broker launch approach and theyre extremely excited about our move into the business. Theyre focused on making it successful, and were excited to work with them. So thats a legacy distribution source that we value.
So how does the emergence of this new entity affect MAXIS? Is AXA getting out of that joint venture with MetLife?
Balzano: If you look at France, AXA is a huge leader, especially in employee benefits. MAXIS is a global benefits joint venture and a very successful operation. But MAXIS targets large cases, large corporations, and it will keep its focus on large engagements.
Whats going to be in the product lines that youre going to be offering?
Balzano: We don't want to be a niche carrier in ancillary benefits. We want to provide a full range of products. We will be able to provide employer-paid and voluntary benefits, and if we are successful, and I hope well be, we will accelerate the growth, build new products, or maybe try to set up some partnerships with medical carriers. We dont sell medical, so it would make sense to collaborate on that.
Have you set short-term milestones, long-term milestones?
Balzano: We have a plan until 2020. Potential acquisitions could be something were considering, but we [want] to really test the water and to be confident with the market. Then well accelerate and extend the range of products.
Velazquez: As you enter the market, you learn what the market wants, you tweak your design, you go out, you refine the market approach, you refine the product approach. And so we built that into the longer-term 2020 plan that Hervé mentioned because, again, its a learn-and-share culture at AXA. So we want to go out and figure out what customers want, whether its a broker or a GA or a strategic partner.
If AXA enters a market and decides its going to take over a company, it does so in a very disciplined, methodical way. And its the same thing here. The thing that we dont hesitate to do is say we dont know everything and we dont so we continue to learn what the market wants.
Are you looking to make a splash with the products?
Long: Do you think products and features are going to be the differentiator? I dont see it. Its almost like table stakes. Delivery systems, messaging, platform, I think thats going to be the difference. We know that you have to be price competitive, you have to have products and services and the features that people want. Weve looked at that and built it from that basis. If theres a feature on critical illness thatll increase enrollment from 12% to 30%, Id love to see it. I dont think its there.
Velazquez: Theres going to be flexibility that is going into all of these products because were filing them for the first time. Thats just a basic point. We can run across a white board and say, What do people have? What dont people have? What seems to make sense, and what doesnt? A lot of excessive benefit triggers for example in the CI products consumers dont like them, brokers dont like to explain them. Its a frustrating experience for the employer. So lets make ours a little bit simple. Is that a plan design thats going to set the world on fire? No. Is it flexible enough to be able to meet what the market needs now? Yes.
Whats the strategy to try to get a little momentum behind your growth?
Balzano: We can leverage the knowledge and the relationships we have with brokers and distributors everywhere. We can leverage the technology we have already built in different areas in Europe or in Asia.
How many people do you have in the organization?
Balzano: Twenty-five currently. We continue to hire people. I now have my core team in place, chief of staff, head of sales, head of technology and operation, head of underwriting and product. And they are starting to grow their teams, and we are all working together with the same vision. By the end of the year we should be at 50. But of course we can leverage all the support within AXA U.S. in IT, finance, HR. We dont have to build from scratch in the new market. We are already an established company.
Velazquez: Getting to scale, it requires commitment, and we certainly have the commitment from AXA. We certainly have the commitment here from our board, from our executive team. Everybody is fully aligned, which is a great opportunity for us because the high-level strategy was developed, it was vetted, and now its all about execution. Its going out into the market over the coming months and getting it done.
Do you have a vision for how to keep employees and employers engaged all year?
Velazquez: You sort of wonder whether employers actually truly understand what their employees want and how they want it. So, the ability to stay actively engaged with the carrier that provides disability, how important is that? Its important when youve got a claim. And so its thinking about the claim experience and what that actually means and how that gets started and how it gets processed. That sounds so simple, but part of the engagement is recognizing when do people really want to get engaged?
Where do you think the big challenges are for you moving ahead?
Balzano: Theres the competition, of course, but many are struggling. I talked recently with a president of a big company. He said they grew through acquisition, but they never unified on one platform. And now they are struggling with seven different systems. So its tough for them.
Then I would say we have to be patient, that we have to test the water, and do that in a selective way. The product is good, and we offer a broader solution than what you can get usually in the market as a distributor. It should resonate.
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